Written by rhleslie on 12/22/2010 6:21 PM | COMMENTS (20)

I recently got a juicer and started juicing veggies every day. I feel great, and I know that this fresh raw juice is excellent for my body, mind and soul. However, I was having trouble figuring out the point value of my concoctions. So I started searching around the weight watchers site and saw a few other people with similar concerns had posted in the community forums. The commentary from the peanut gallery in response to these posts was disheartening to say the least! These people commenting thought that juice was juice and it didn't matter where it came from. That is SO NOT TRUE!

Store bought juices are old, pasturized and preserved. Fresh juices, made in a juicer, have all the vital nutrients and phytonutrients that you can only get in raw vegetables. They haven't been destroyed by pasturization processes or died from old age. Now, points wise, these fresh juices are probably the same or similar to store bought juice since these vital nutrients aren't a part of the weight watcher's calculations. But that does not mean they are the same. Points are just points- not the whole picture of foods. And the fact that most fruits and veggies are now zero points probably has more to do with the fact that Americans don't eat nearly enough of either than it does with complex calculations to figure out points. Most people don't eat any vegetables at all (seriously! I know, its crazy!!!)- so by making them no points perhaps weight watchers is trying to influence healthier behaviors in its clients as well as point out that fruits and vegetables are really good for you.

After researching regular juice in the points tracker, I give myself 1 point for all veggie juice (1 cup) and 2 points if I add an apple or orange to the mix. But to think that freshly juiced kale, carrot and apple juice is the same as something with similar ingredients that is in a bottle in a store is just nonsense. I highly recommend that you taste the fresh raw kind and you will see that its like comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended). Fresh raw food is good for you- google it!

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  • Post Image paulinepat

    9/20/2013 11:43 AM
    I juice fruit and veg combo and drink it with my breakfast of oatmeal Total 6 points for both things.( 4 oatmeal with fruit -o point) 2 for juice Then I take the pulp and I build veggie burgers and then I use recipe builder for that

  • Post Image lilmrsafano (lisa)

    9/12/2013 3:10 PM
    Very good review and statement. i myself juice at home and drink raw fresh cold pressed juices and have been wondering what and how should I account for fresh juices. I think this is something WW should evaluate. :-)

  • Post Image biaube (brittany)

    9/4/2013 7:22 AM
    I also have a juicer and have been making juice for breakfast every day. I just joined WW and am wondering how I would track my the points for my juice on my online tracker. I usually make a juice with 4 stalks of kale, al1 whole cucumber, 2 celery stalks, 1 green apple, 1/2 lemon, and a small chunk of ginger. Any advice on how to track all of this with the online tracker instead of just on paper?

  • Post Image jazbonz (joy)

    5/29/2013 7:27 PM
    I too have been juicing. I love it. I combine so many fruits and veggies and they are delicious. I make it different every day. Before I got my pulp free juicer, I was using my vitamix to make whole juices, which still had all of the pulp in it. However, the drinks were so thick that I had to add ice to thin them down. I am very frustrated that WW has not added juicing to the mix. Get with it please, there are so many people trying to get healthy, WW is suppose to support that.

  • Post Image timothyjohnson (timothy)

    5/6/2013 10:00 AM
    I don't get wound up about it. I charge myself 2 points for mostly vegetable juices, 3 for my beet and fruit juices and 4 for my heavy starch juices e.g. sweet potatoes with carrots and apple. Not sure if it is perfect but at least it is consistent and keeps me in the ball park. Don't over think it.

  • Post Image robertsmi (michelle)

    4/10/2013 3:53 PM
    I totally agree with this post. I have one 20 oz juice per day as a snack or to rehydrate after a workout. I charge myself 2 points because the juices are mainly veggies, plus one apple or orange. I'm not overweight because of all the carrot juice I am drinking! I have been sticking to my points, working out, and juicing, and I've been losing. Juicing is the best. Lovesit!!!!!

  • Post Image elene1228 (carol )

    2/18/2013 12:48 AM
    I very new to the ww community. I was using the recipe builder to build a juice. I juice everything! Multiple times a day. The builder says that each cup of juiced kale, carrots, celery, an apple, and a cucumber is 11 points... **** ? No way I agree that all the freshly juiced should be 1 or 2 points a piece!

  • Post Image beadmom55 (linda)

    2/10/2013 1:18 PM
    I agree. I have been juicing on and off for years. WW uses lots of veggies and now in the cold weather having then cooked and hot feels good. 1 point for fresh vegetables and 2 for fruit makes sense. I might bump the points up for beets.

  • Post Image sammmiii777

    1/3/2013 8:47 PM
    This article is shedding some light for me, because I just started WW and this is my biggest headache. I use a nutribullet to make my peach/pineapple/apple/orange concoction every morning...nutribullet unlike traditional juicers does not remove the fiber. Hence would I give my juices a value of 2 or zero? Thanks for the help :)

  • Post Image johnboudre

    12/26/2012 10:41 PM
    This article is very helpful. I just started on WW after losing 40 lbs on the original points system. Toward the end of my initial loss, the program switched to Point Plus and my loss stopped. I gained "juicer" I want to point my juices to ensure loss...but I'm not sure if using the recipe builder is the best way to go given that the fiber is gone. how do we get WW to weigh in on this?

  • Post Image rhondalee10 (rhonda)

    11/27/2012 4:09 PM
    When you juice fruit and vegetables you are removing the pulp which accounts for most of the fiber content. The fiber is what makes the point value Zero. I agree that 1 cup of all veggie juice can be counted as 1 point and 2 points if you add a piece of fruit. Just be careful if you are doing an all fruit juice; I add 3-4 points depending on the fruit I use.

  • Post Image beautyu

    7/30/2012 9:23 PM
    I also just bought a juicer. I know all the fiber is removed because I do not use the pulp. Is that what changes the point value? I am meeting with my trainer tomorrow who knows the WW program and see if she can shed some light. I will keep you posted.

  • Post Image sescrows (sandra)

    7/27/2012 5:59 PM
    I also don't understand how people say that the juice is worth more than the fruit? I understand that the nutrients are more concentrated, but how can 1/4 cup of juice from an apple physically be more than the apple it came from? I get that 1/4 cup of juiced apple vs 1/4 cup of big pieces of apple is different, but not the first comparison. I am also very frustrated about the lack of info on this topic at ww. :( Thanks for your article though. Glad somebody's looking into it.

  • Post Image sescrows (sandra)

    7/27/2012 5:55 PM
    Under "fruit", on the official ww post it says if you eat a "normal" num of fr/veg a day to count them as 0. On the tracker, you get a :) for 8 fr/veg; which to me indicates a normal amt. I hardly eat that many fru/veg. I’ve been juicing 1 apple, 2 sm kiwi, a few grapes and strawberries, spinach and 1.5 reg carrots. To me that should equal around 5 servings (within the normal amt) so should be 0. In the rec. build. it's 8pt. This issue is still very confusing to me.

  • Post Image mdt.33 (marcia)

    6/9/2012 10:13 AM
    I have been trying to figure this out and I am so glad to have a way to calculate it. Thank you so much

  • Post Image mdt.33 (marcia)

    6/9/2012 10:11 AM
    I have been trying to figure this out and I am so glad to have a way to calculate it. Thank you so much

  • Post Image dproph00 (deanna)

    5/14/2012 7:38 PM
    I watched Fat, Sick and Almost Dead (the movie-on Netflix) about a year ago and have been an avid juicer since. I just started WW this week and thought I was getting 0 points when I juiced an amazingly nutritious veggie/fruit concontion only to hear that it counts as points since the fiber is no longer being consumed. I think I will continue to juice and count it as 4 points because the benefit of juicing outweighs being able to eat a small snack. Fear of not losing makes me count it!

  • Post Image tktj.mom (leigh-ann )

    5/9/2012 3:09 PM
    Nobody ever died (or developed heart disease) from too many fruits and veggies... or fresh juice. I don't count it. I never did with any other diet and won't with weight watchers... The only time I "consider" the juicing is if I am below points. If I am below and not hungry, I chalk it up to the juice and live and let live!

  • Post Image vegnation (michelle)

    5/9/2012 9:22 AM
    thank you! i make a kale/spinach/cucumber/celery juice, and i've been wondering how many points that is--the examples of juices in the system all seem to include fruit, but then again, spinach and cucumber are both sweet and starchy vegetables. i think i'm going to count it as one point.

  • Post Image shannon.charland (shannon)

    5/2/2012 7:26 AM
    I found another thread, if you use the recipe builder, for all the ingredients in your juice, you'll get a point value. My Carrot, Strawberry Apple Juice is 6 points. Hope this helps!


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