Written by astyles242 (ann) on 5/16/2011 6:46 PM | COMMENTS (20)

I think it's pretty bogus that WW says fruit is a zero points plus food, when if you use it in a recipe for a smoothie, for example, it's not zero points! I've been having a problem with gaining weight while on maintenance on the new points plus program. I had gained about 3 pounds. I decided to go to the weight loss point level of 29, still counting fruit as 0 points and still gained weight. So now I'm starting to panic. I decided to stick to 29 points per day, but to count the fruit as 1 point. Basically I decided to use the point count for fruit from the old program and voila... I started losing weight! I've lost 2 pounds in the 3 weeks that I started counting fruit and I don't feel hungry at all. While counting fruit as a 0 points plus food may work for some people, it definitely does not work for me. For me... FRUIT IS NOT FREE!

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  • Post Image nklewer (nichole)

    4/4/2014 1:05 PM
    The thinking is that on the old system, an apple was the same points value as a cookie. Making fruit zero points encourages people to choose it over completely wasting points on snacks with no nutritional value. :-)

  • Post Image losinglynnk (lynn)

    3/24/2014 8:12 AM
    When you break the fruit apart in a blender or juicer, you are cutting out a lot of the fiber (more so in the juicer than the blender, but the latter still affects it) and without the fiber, it's all carb at that point. And that is why your point free fruit is now costing you points. Not bogus.

  • Post Image gkennedydc (gavin)

    3/16/2014 12:34 PM
    nobody got fat here eating too much fruit. full stop.

  • Post Image jess732008 (jessica)

    12/30/2013 4:23 AM
    Continued... I can eat a whole pineapple in two days, and that adds about 400 extra calories. A few large bananas adds several hundred more calories. It is so easy to overeat anything and everything unless it is really really low calorie so it will not really matter. I don't think I have overeaten salsa or green vegetables, maybe starchy vegetables, like carrots.

  • Post Image jess732008 (jessica)

    12/30/2013 4:21 AM
    Okay, don't know why they thought I swore I did not. My problem is that I will manage the fruit amount great for a few weeks but then wanting to eat healthier I will start eating more fruit in smoothies and just fresh. Fruit can add up really quickly. Another poster said allowing people who are portion control challenged to have something free is not wise and I totally agree. I have gained 4 lbs in a week having the "free" fruit and tracking everything else perfectly.

  • Post Image jess732008 (jessica)

    12/30/2013 4:18 AM
    Hi, I agree with the original post. I lost 60 lbs on the Points program and still needed to lose 50 more lbs to get to goal weight. The new program put a major **** in my weight loss efforts. I have decided to merge WW with a free online food tracker Supertracker that counts all aspects of foods and just to keep the calorie allowance similar after tracking both for a couple weeks to see what the average calories are given my points allowance. I cannot have free fruit.

  • Post Image wanderingjulep

    1/18/2013 8:01 PM
    Lost a ton of weight with my old points calculator COUNTING EVERYTHING especially with PP program and if it doesn't work going back to the old points system keeping my fingers crossed.

  • Post Image mbranko24 (erin)

    7/22/2012 7:32 AM
    I am with your guys. I just joined and cannot for the life of me figure out why fruit is only 0 points. Here is the scoop-more calories out than in. If you aren't tracking a food and not counting it, then it's still counting. If you have even 3 pieces of fruit per day, then that can add up to anywhere between 20 and 300 calories. And WW isn't accounting for that? Sorry, but that is flawed thinking.

  • Post Image raybloom2

    6/12/2012 7:05 AM
    how many points is fruit on the old plan? I dont have this info anymore.

  • Post Image jacqueline johnson

    6/7/2012 12:19 AM
    Finally, I found a group who know that this fruit method is not working. I had loss over 136lbs but I took time off because of my mom death and when I came back gain 30lbs back, came back in january and have plateau ever since. I HATE THIS NEW PROGRAM! !!!

  • Post Image jacqueline johnson

    6/5/2012 7:28 PM
    Finally, I found a group who know that this fruit method is not working. I had loss over 136lbs but I took time off because of my mom death and when I came back gain 30lbs back, came back in january and have plateau ever since. I HATE THIS NEW PROGRAM! !!!

  • Post Image crysmok

    6/2/2012 4:49 PM
    No, fruit is not free. They have raised point values of other items to make up for the points you eat in fruit. That is why you can't go overboard on fruit. I follow my points and eat a reasonable amount of fruit each day and the plan works for me. However, I am a runner so i gain extra points. Diet AND exercise is the key people!!!

  • Post Image jgill32778

    5/17/2012 1:29 PM
    So glad I found this. I've been confused by the fruit situation as well. For example, sometimes I pick up a small container of fresh fruit at Starbucks. If I enter the information on the nutrition label, it comes up as 2 points. However, if I just enter the contents (a cup a melon, half cup of grapes, etc.), then it comes up as 0 points. I have definitely not been losing weight on Points Plus as efficiently as I did on the old Points system. So, I will try counting fruit as you suggest.

  • Post Image that_girl_jen

    4/26/2012 3:32 PM
    Hi, I was really glad to find your post because I have been struggling like you and so has a friend of mine, who gave up the program for calorie counting instead. I discovered my banana was actually 3 points when I enter the data in manually. Have you been sticking to counting all fruit as 1 point each, or being accurate and counting it for its individual weight? Today is the first week I am counting fruit and I have just started counting it by weighing and determining the actual point value.

  • Post Image susan5737 (susan)

    3/21/2012 8:54 AM
    I don't think fruit should be free. It contains fructose which is a form of sugar and acts the same as regular sugar. I am not a fan of fruit (unless it is blended) or vegetables which is a problem on WW since I have to remember to include it in my plan. When I do have smoothies with fruit I have noticed that I do not lose much weight that week. When I increase the veggies and stay away from fruit, I generally lose 2-3 lbs a week.

  • Post Image cmonty1987 (christine)

    3/5/2012 12:22 PM
    I had just joined WW two weeks ago, I lost 5lbs thus far but my scale seems to be at a stand still now. As far as fruit FRUIT IS DEF NOT FREE! I decided to enter in the nutritional label information for fun and the majority of the fruit came up as THREE points... this is very misleading since i have been counting fruit as zero this whole time and i'm left wondering if this is causing me to not loose further weight

  • Post Image barocho (bibi)

    2/10/2012 9:16 AM
    thank you for this post...I've been on a plateau for 5 weeks and think the 0-point fruit counting is my problem...I'm going to try it your way to see if it helps me. Thanks again!

  • Post Image astyles242 (ann)

    10/8/2011 11:52 AM
    Success! I lost this 3 lbs week! I am realizing that my formula to lose is to have 20 weekly points left and to exercise a minimum of 30 activity points for the week... and count my fruit as 1 point each. Feels sooo good to be back on track. Another 3 1/2 lbs and I'm where I want to be!

  • Post Image astyles242 (ann)

    10/7/2011 8:45 PM
    Weighing in tomorrow. I think I lost this week only by being super careful with the fruit & counting every last one. The fruit thing is a slippery slope for sure. I've been trying to eat a piece of fruit as a snack when I'm hungry & not adding it to something else I'm eating like cereal or yogurt because for me that's almost like mindless eating...been buying smaller fruit, i.e. smaller apples, bananas, nectarines so that it's closer to the calorie value of one point.

  • Post Image jenniferhaskins (jennifer)

    8/8/2011 2:43 PM
    I fully agree with you! I was on WW a year ago, lost some weight, and then quit. I joined up again into the "points plus" WW system and am not losing weight. I've been making a "fruit soup" and inputting it as it's separate components until today. My two-point smoothie just became an 11 pointer!!! Lesson learned.


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