Alcohol : Another Momentum vs. Points Plus Debate

Written by saucyminx410 (amber) on 5/25/2011 8:46 PM | COMMENTS (15)


At the risk of sounding like a huge lush- I want to talk about drinking.

More specifically I want to talk about what I'm drinking and how it might be deterring my weight loss goal.

Let me start by saying- yes, I am aware that excessive alcohol is not part of the guidelines for good health - I know this - that aside...girlfriend will not be giving up her cocktails. Now, with that out of the way I can present my plight.

When I first began my journey in the winter of 2010 I knew that my alcohol consumption was going to have to change -otherwise I would be consuming far too many empty calories and not losing weight. So I switched from my regular vodka cranberries and glasses of Chardonnay to a single shot of flavored vodka stirred into a glass of water and mixed with a go- packet of Crystal Lite. Seemed to work well and I never gave it a second though until now.

Since I've begun dissecting the reason why I have been at a standstill for 3 months (+) I've (so far) come to two conclusions. 1: fruit - which we've already discussed and 2 my alcohol consumption.
Now, I don't drink often - every other weekend or so - but when I do its several not just one or two. This is a personal choice and one that is not up for negotiation (we all have something) so before the lectures...don't.
Up until Points Plus rolled out I happily sipped my vodka/water/crystal lites and went on about my business. HOWEVER when Points Plus arrived and vodka became as costly as my beloved Chardonnay- 4 points for a jigger and 4 points for a glass- I gladly cashed in my fruity concoctions for wine and never looked back.
Until; that is, I realized this just isn't LOGICAL. Sure wine has heart healthy properties and SOME fruit in it and if compared one to one is probably HEALTHIER- but it has to be much higher in fat and calories than vodka- and say I go out and have 5 drinks on a Saturday night with friends how is it possible that when 5 vodka drinks in November were 5 points and 5 wines were 20 points - that wine and vodkas are created equal in May

So at the huge risk of sounding like an alcoholic - this is ridiculous and can't possibly be accurate.

Ugh. I suppose I could cash it all in for awhile but that's just not realistic to my lifestyle. In the meantime I am switching back to my original drink of choice and continuing to press on towards making this work for me again.

60 lbs down, 5 to go. If something doesn't start to give soon - I am. Already, because of my stand still I can see myself moving away from tracking and not logging in all day- THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING!!!

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  • Post Image loriborder (lori)

    5/2/2014 4:20 PM
    I don't know why people are saying vodka is zero calories. It has close to 100 calories per ounce. And though it has no nutritional value, it has alcohol, which the body metabolizes first, which turns to sugar and stores as fat. It cannot be discounted as nothing.

  • Post Image tjheat (heather)

    6/6/2013 6:47 PM
    I love this post!! Took the words (from top to bottom) right out of my mouth! I have many friends that still lost weight while continuing their rather active (by choice, not problem) cocktail life. However, I'm at a bit of a stand still after a 20 pound loss. I have much more to go. I'm on here researching the effects on others with weight loss and continuing to partake in adult beverages.

  • Post Image stephlallen (stephanie)

    12/4/2012 3:27 PM
    I have drinks on a regular basis, 4 or 5 cocktails probably about 5-6 nights a week. Why? Because it's fun and I like it. I drink Smirnoff Ice and Mike's Hard Lemonade. I've seen point values anywhere from 3-5 on these products and it would be really helpful to know the correct values. Why would I waste 4 on vodka/water if I can have the drink I prefer for 4? I know the calories have a difference of about 150, so how can they be worth the same???

  • Post Image lesliev1955 (leslie)

    8/1/2012 5:20 PM
    I figure if having a cocktail will prevent me from abandoning the WW program because of a guilt trip, ie failure, it's worth the added points. I do know, however, after consumption your body's natural way to process alcohol is turning it into glucose (=sugar, =carbs). I'm new to the program so I'll see if my daily scotch defeats the whole purpose, which is to lose weight!

  • Post Image marlenewardell (marlene)

    10/21/2011 3:30 PM
    I'm a newb and I've been going in circles about this very subject. The cheat sheet says 40% alcohol is 2 points per ounce. But when I went to the Pinnacle Vodka website and read the nutritional info for their Whipped flavored vodka, the only thing it contains is 7.5 carbs for 50 ml. which calculates out to 1 point for an ounce and a half. This vodka is only 35% alcohol, but there seems to be quite a discrepancy between what the WW calculator says and what their cheat sheet says.

  • Post Image pschwartz1996

    8/3/2011 7:20 PM
    3words....skinny girl margarita

  • Post Image corlove0106

    7/15/2011 3:29 PM
    I am having the same frustration! And if you look at the nutrition facts of vodka, besides some calories, there's nothing really there. No fat, no fiber, no protein, and no carbs! Is WW just trying to get us to not drink?

  • Post Image sarah zaug

    7/13/2011 8:37 PM
    Enjoyed your blog and agree with your frustration! I checked the points on an Amstel Light and it came out to ONE! Unbelievable, so I'm calling it two. FYI, just found a White Cake tasting vodka today at the store, brand is UV.

  • Post Image darin12742

    6/7/2011 8:49 AM
    I like to drink both Beer and Liquor. Since Ive been on WW, I have kinda questioned the pts when it comes to certain "drinks"...If certain low carb beers have only 2.4 carbs, 0 protein, fats & fiber, how can that be 2 pts each beer? Ive been drinking Firefly Skinny Tea Vodka mixed with Tropicana 50 limonade for a "stiff Arnold Palmer" and Limonade is about 1 pt per 8oz. so in my mind, each drink SHOULD be 1 pt since the vodka is 0 calorie...

  • Post Image raleighgator76

    5/26/2011 7:59 PM
    It's been a frustrating thing for me in the past as well. I do like the liquor. Good luck with figuring it all out.

  • Post Image andrewjude (andrew)

    5/26/2011 10:04 AM
    Unfortunately I think the error is that Chardonnay should be more the 4 and not that vodka should be less. I would still track it if I were you. Bottoms up!

  • Post Image saucyminx410 (amber)

    5/26/2011 9:55 AM
    Nope! I'm not a beer drinking kind of girl- but I am switching back to vodka - I am truly convinced there are errors in the new system - not so much for the people just starting or that still had a lot to lose but for those who really worked Momentum and are near or at goal. The good news though is that even though I haven't been losing I am still maintaining ...I'm considering it practice for being at goal.

  • Post Image oahuann (ann)

    5/25/2011 9:54 PM
    I also like my adult beverages. I have learned that if the points are the same or close, I am going to drink the item that satisfies me the most at that time. This way I change things up a bit as I generally have a glass of wine or cocktail every evening and I still have fun at parties. I am starting to track adult beverages as the only thing in my anytime tracker section to quickly see how many pts I drink versus chew.

  • Post Image andrewjude (andrew)

    5/25/2011 9:32 PM
    This is absolutely fascinating. Vodka and crystal light has long been my drink of choice because it's low in both calories and carbs. You may have found a legitimate error in the system and I would stick with the vodka over the wine. Unless of course you want to switch to MGD 64s which I'm guessing you dont. :-)

  • Post Image darrylzoller (darryl)

    5/25/2011 9:02 PM
    This post is a new world for me. I have never had even so much as a beer in my life. And I am 60 years old!


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